Introduction:
The author had hoped the MAP satellite could be placed in a total eclipse
position at L2 and the CBR checked for the influence of the suns gravity to
further confirm the results of the mathematical experiment which follows.
Today the author received a note from the director of the MAP project,
informing him that it will not be possible to check for an anomaly of this
kind using the MAP satellite. The author has posted the full contents of his
exchange with the MAP director at the conclusion of this post. Perhaps other techniques or equipment can
be used however, in the future. Nevertheless, the following mathematical
experiment alone is impressive, because it clearly shows the potential
of the model on this site to explain the anomalous acceleration of the
Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft. An updated
abstract dated 2/5/02 is reproduced first for your convenience. Scroll down for
the description of the experiment, the math, the results a few comments by
the author and the contents of the authors exchange with the MAP director.
Best Wishes, Sam Cox
General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology, abstract
gr-qc/0104064
From: "Slava G. Turyshev"
Date (v1): Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:42:49 GMT (834kb)
Date (revised v2): Tues, 15 May 2001 20:55:26 GMT (835kb)
Date (revised v3): Tues, 5 Feb 2002 21:05:21 GMT (851kb)
Study of the anomalous acceleration of Pioneer 10 and 11
Authors: John D. Anderson, Philip A. Laing, Eunice L. Lau, Anthony S.
Liu, Michael Martin Nieto, Slava G. Turyshev
Comments: RevTeX, 54 pages, 18 figures, and 3 tables. Additions and
modifications for PRD publication
Report-no: LA-UR-00-5654
Sub-class: General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology; Space
Physics
Our previous analyses of radio Doppler and ranging data from distant
spacecraft in the solar system indicated that an apparent anomalous
acceleration is acting on Pioneer 10 and 11, with a magnitude
$a_P\sim 8\times 10^{-8}$ cm/s$^2$, directed towards the Sun
(anderson,moriond). Much effort has been expended looking for possible
systematic origins of the residuals, but none has been found. A detailed
investigation of effects both external to and internal to the spacecraft,
as well as those due to modeling and computational techniques, is provided.
We also discuss the methods, theoretical models, and experimental techniques
used to detect and study small forces acting on interplanetary spacecraft.
These include the methods of radio Doppler data collection, data editing,
and data reduction.
There is now further data for the Pioneer 10 orbit determination.
The extended Pioneer 10 data set spans 3 January 1987 to 22 July 1998.
[For Pioneer 11 the shorter span goes from 5 January 1987 to the time of
loss of coherent data on 1 October 1990.] With these data sets and more
detailed studies of all the systematics, we now give a result, of
$a_P = (8.74 \PM 1.33) \times 10^{-8} \{\rm cm/s}^2$.
(Annual /diurnal variations on top of $a_P$, that leave $a_P$ unchanged,
are also reported and discussed.)
Paper: PostScript, PDF, or Other formats
(N.B.: delivery types and potential problems)
refers to , cited by
Top of Form 1 Hi David:
In the two/ sphere concept, gravity is a Planck Realm phenomenon
caused by a micro singular matrix at the lowest levels of scale
in the cosmos.The "CBR" is the 2.73 Degree K photonic "other side"
of this phenomenon as observed from our frame.
I'm looking for a "gravitational" force equal to
about 10 to the minus 8th of the gravitational attraction of the
Sun at a distance of 10 billion kilometers.
Lets start with a sphere of space with a radius of 10 billion Km.
Since the tide of singular gravitation rises close to massive
bodies, lets assume we will need an average of say 10 to the
minus 36th....closer to 10 to the minus 33rd near the sun and 10
to the minus 40th in intergalactic space....
OK, what is the gravitatational attraction of a black hole with
an event horizon radius 10 to the minus 36th the volume of a
sphere of "space" with a radius of 10 Billion Km?....at a
distance of 10 Billion Km? Is it 10 to the minus 8th that of
the parent body?..(the sun)
We are going to be off, for singularity in space pulls from
every direction, and as a spacecraft departs the solar system,
the influence of the suns "gathering effect"
diminishes...however, even at 10 billion Km. The sun is still
the dominant influence....
Thanks Again,
Sam Cox Response from David, Monday, 2/18/02
"OK, what is the gravitational attraction of a black hole
with an event horizon radius 10 to the minus 36th the volume of a
sphere of "space" with a radius of 10 Billion Km?....at a distance
of 10 Billion Km? Is it 10 to the minus 8th that of the parent body?..
(the sun)"
g ~ -GM/r2
GM = r0c2/2
Therefore:
g = -(1/2)(r0c2/r2)
V0/Vs = (r0/rs) 3 = 10-36
rs = 1013
r = 1013m
r0 = rs
so:
g = -(1/2)(V0/Vs)1/3 (c2/r)
g = -(1/2)(10-36)1/3 [(3x108)2/1013]m/s2
g = -4.5x10-10m/s2 AUTHORS COMMENTS
First note the difference in units used by Dr. Anderson (Centimeters) and
David (Meters). Upon appropriate conversion, Davids work, based on the
average figures I gave him, works out to -4.5x10-8Cm/sec2. The minus
sign indicates a deceleration...a force acting toward the Sun. This is
astounding! Without complex computers, and working on a remote island with
only averages, coming up with such a number is the equivalent of hitting the ball over the center
field fence at Yankee Stadium! We need a force about 4 times stronger,
however I wanted to be on the low side in my estimate. All scientists know
the Planck length: 10 to the -33rd Cm. I avoided using that figure, instead
selecting 10 to the -36th Cm...a thousand times smaller volume. My reason
is that departiculation/singularization only begins at 10 to the -33rd Cm...
but is complete in the area around 10 to the -36th. Particle physicists
could give us a much more exact figure to work with.
Also, cosmologically the Sun is "a small potato",.. with a diameter
of 860,000 miles. Yet it is a vast, dense, particulate body with almost
20% of the mass
necessary to establish the singular condition from our frame. The
atomic framework of the Sun is laden with singularity (measurements
go from the Suns center, although of course the mass of the Sun itself is
excluded from these calculations). The Suns' surrounding space out to
100 million miles is profoundly influenced, so I expected
to be "on the low side" with the figures I gave David. A properly programmed computer
and better Planck dimensions should be able to give more accurate results.
I have forwarded these findings to appropriate people in both the United
States and in the UK. Taken with the other simple experiments documented
on this site, it can be seen that combining Schwarzschild two/ sphere geometry, the Planck
singular realm and General Relativity conceptually matches the universe
within the limits of present observation.A universal mass of 10 to the
60th Kg and a radius of 10 to the 40th Cm are implied. What an exciting journey of exploration science is!
The author is
reminded of the comment of Einstein when he referred to the vast
mass of experimental confirmation and verification of
his theory of relativity as..."the details". CONTENTS OF THE AUTHORS
EXCHANGE WITH DR. CHARLES L. BENNETT; MAP PROJECT At 01:23 PM 3/21/2002 +1100, you wrote:
Hi Chuck:
I was reading that you seek to avoid solar eclipse at L2.
I would hope that for a period of time you would put the MAP satellite in the
total eclipse position and carefully study the CBR for the influence of the
mass of the sun. If the CBR is affected, it could be evidence for an instantly
propagating Non-GR gravity and a two/ sphere universe al la Schwarzschild.
Please check:
http://www.fm/7-sphere
and click on anomalous acceleration of pioneer 10/11 item on the home page.
Best Wishes,
Samuel A. (Sam) Cox
Assistant Professor
College of Micronesia
Palikir, Pohnpei FSM
sacox@comfsm.fm
acox@mail.fm
----- Original Message -----
From: Charles L. Bennett
To: Sam Cox
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: Is the CBR affected by the mass of the sun?
Sam,
There is no umbra at L2. The best one could do is a 85% eclipse. In any case,
this is not possible for MAP. MAP receives it's power from the Sun via solar
panels. Also, MAP depends on the solar heating to maintain its systems within
their operational temperature ranges. Without the sunlight and heat the MAP
observatory would fail.
Chuck
Hi Chuck:
Thanks for the information! It really is too bad we can't do that. So near yet so far!
With your permission, I'll post your response and clarify this.
Maybe this type of experiment could be conducted using other types of equipment,
or has already been done- with negative results. If you know of any attempts or
work of this kind,
I would appreciate information.
Since the CBR is the remnant of an event which from our frame occurred 15by ago, if the CBR IS affected by the mass of the sun, it would be scientifically worthwhile to carefully evaluate the results.
Your rapid response is appreciated, and you all have my best wishes in your work.
I assume we will have some data to look at in a year or so. This is a most exciting
project. Sam Cox NOTES: In spite of coronal interference, the
author feels a detailed study of the CBR around an eclipsed Sun could be
scientifically useful, especially a study of the FUNCTION with which the
"temperature" of space increases with increasing proximity to the Sun. Any
such study should begin with a a scan of an angular section of the sky
(as small as possible)
directly opposite the sun, and continue around the sky in the direction
of the eclipsed sun until the actual eclipsed Sun is approached. The section
of the study closest to the Sun might have to be disregarded because of
coronal interference and fluctuations, however a simple graph of the temperature
plots should show a function similar to a part of the time dilation
curve in GR...(END OF EXCHANGE)
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